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August 23, 2019 - Guest: Stan Roden

Topics: HR763, Carbon Fee, Direct Air Capture, Gas Tax, How to Negotiate 

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On this episode of Solutions News, we welcome Stan Roden, who along with being a recovering lawyer and currently a teacher and documentary filmmaker is also a leader in the Santa Barbara chapter of the Citizens Climate Lobby.  We also discuss the national carbon fee proposal HR 763, direct air capture (DAC) as an essential technology to reduce extant ambient carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, the national gas tax and our infrastructure, and after our “didyaknows” we outline 10 tips for making every negotiation a “win-win”. (Produced by Kristy Jansen)


Story #1 - Carbon Capture and Storage Update 

The first story of this Friday’s show with Stan Roden is an update on a show we did last March on how carbon capture and storage is working. We know that the best way to capture and store carbon is to plant something green, but unfortunately we cannot keep up with the rate necessary. As good as it is to pull CO2 from the air using plants, that is only an immediate and short-term solution. The long-term solution is capturing the CO2 and locking it into a solid form, thus preventing it from going back into the atmosphere. How can we do that? Direct Air Capture, or DAC.


DAC is receiving plenty of attention from the business and scientific worlds as it is quite literally sucking CO2 out of the air and morphing it into a solid form. It is financially practical, and Climeworks, a Swiss company, has already launched its first test plant in Iceland. We predict there will be thousands of these plants operating within the next ten years, but for now we must stop burning fossil fuels immediately. We are in a global emergency and DAC plants can definitely help.


Story #2 - A History Lesson: The Federal Gas Tax

Our national infrastructure is in need of repair with crumbling roads and bridges. Something needs to be done quickly. The federal gas tax was first imposed in 1932 at one cent per gallon, and the last time it was increased was in 1993 to 18.4 centers per gallon. We need that gas tax to get even with inflation to keep up with the times. 33 states have raised their gas taxes because the Federal government is failing to meet our transportation needs.

The gas tax makes it slightly more expensive to use gasoline, pushing consumers toward alternatives like fuel efficient cars, hybrids, electric cars, bicycles, and scooters. While the market is already leaning in that direction, a gas tax would be a nudge to speed up that process. 


Story #3 - Getting to Win-Win

The final story of the week is on negotiation. In any and every negotiation, the goal is for both parties to come to a meeting of the minds so both parties walk away with a “win.” Some essential tips to get in the right mindset for a successful negotiation are as follows: ask for what you want; shut up and listen; do your homework; be willing to walk away; don’t be rushed; aim high; expect the best outcome; focus on the other side’s pressure, not yours; show the other person how their needs will be met; don’t give anything away without getting something in return; don’t take it personally.


Negotiating is an art of achieving compromise to get us to where we want to go. It may take a stressful situation to achieve your goals, but negotiations are opportunities to secure what you’ve been wanting all this time.

Carbon Fee and Dividend, explained
Carbon Fee and Dividend, explained

Stan Roden

 Stanley M. Roden, JD, received his law degree from the University of California, Hastings College of the Law in 1966. His undergraduate degree is in political science from UC Berkeley, 1963. Mr. Roden has practiced civil and criminal law, including serving as the elected District Attorney for Santa Barbara County (1975-1982), and thereafter practiced exclusively civil trial law, specializing in water, real property and other commercial disputes. 


Our interview with Stan will discuss his advocacy role with the Citizen's Climate Lobby, which is working to promote a national Carbon Fee. Having recently returned from a lobbying trip to Washington D.C., He will share his insights on carbon pricing and what it might mean for the future of our country and the environment. The bipartisan carbon fee is designed to drive down carbon emissions, thus helping to alleviate climate change, while creating jobs, encouraging greener alternatives, and cycling money to the American people.


As a trial lawyer (and courtroom storyteller), Stan participated in over 250 civil and criminal trials including murder, crimes of violence, major property crimes, real estate, commercial, water rights, environmental law, administrative law, construction, homeowners, probate, professional malpractice, real property & white-collar crime.


He currently teaches at Santa Barbara and Ventura Colleges of Law, though he has also taught at SBCC, UCSB, and at the University of Montana in the past. Roden has written extensively on the subjects of mediation, negotiation and alternative dispute resolution for the Santa Barbara Bar Association monthly publication, The Quibbler.

Stan Roden, Our Guest on August 23, 2019
Stan Roden, Our Guest on August 23, 2019